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I had one of the long Honey Locust thorns penetrate my shoe sole and bury into the bottom of my foot few years ago. Deep thorn wounds in the foot, or even hands if there is contact with soil, greatly increase the risk of tetanus. Black locust tree thorns are toxic to people and it is recommended that they not be ingested by animals. ; Plant thorn arthritis typically affects only a single joint -- the joint that was pierced by the plant thorn. Joined Mar 6, 2005 Messages 97,613 Location Louisiana! Description Black locust is a fast growing tree that can reach 40 to 100 feet in height at maturity. Honey locust is a medium-sized to large tree that can reach 100 feet tall. It also has thorns surrounding the bark. Honey locust tree bark is gray-brown to red-brown and is covered in clumps of branched thorns. ... Missouri. Honey locust eed – be up to date Hunter Region Priority Weed Management guide. Joined Mar 9, 2005 Messages 8,771. It's a lot of work. Honey locust (Gleditsia triacanthos), also known as thorny locust or thorn tree, is a medium sized tree with pleasing, graceful foliage. Imperial Honey Locust Tree (Gleditsia triacanthos f. inermis ‘Impcole’) The imperial honey locust tree is a thornless species of deciduous tree that grows up to 40 ft. (12 m). is another locust that can become an invasive pest, although it belongs to a different genus than black locust. Soil. The honey locust is grown for ornamental purposes, as it has an attractive fall foliage. my gramma uses vinegar to kill the weeds in her veggie garden. Old Monkey Treehouser. The tree gets its name from the sweet, sticky pulp it produces. Any help will be most appreciated..... Kubota M5040 with FEL WOODS 6ft Brushbull Rotary Cutter JD X320 Lawn Tractor Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. maybe try a crap load of it. MasterBlaster Administrator Emeritus. Removal of the mature stand occurred in about 1987. The honey is managable, I use a machete to shave off the thorns before felling and bucking. Cutting down some Honey Locust trees. I've heard bad things about thorn punctures leading to serious infection. I have learned a lot just by reading through the questions and answers, which is extremely helpful for someone like me who has no experience in this area. Honey locust is highly adaptable to different environments, has been introduced worldwide, and is an aggressive invasive species. Those thorns are killer! • Originally grown as a garden plant or fodder tree. Water Habitat and conservation: Occurs in bottomlands along streams and their valleys, also upland slopes and open or wooded pastures. Leguminosae (Fabaceae) Honey locusts as the species type are seldom used in the landscape because of their vicious three- pronged thorns, which can sometimes be as long as 12 inches. • Capable of out-competing and replacing native vegetation. Aug 30, 2012 #7 RopeShield Well-Known Member. In contrast to the Honey locust, this tree’s thorns are barely visible along the trunk. Share your photo . Honeylocust make a perfect deciduous tree in a yard that doesn’t want heavy shade. Here in west-central Indiana Black Locust and Honey Locust are very prominant. Black locust (Robinia pseudoacacia) is an invasive species in California. Can you treat the stump and return later, or grinding the day of the removal? The Gleditsia triacanthos, or honey locust as its commonly called, is a decidious tree native to the central United States. of honey locust (Gleditsia triacanthos) is similar to that of black locust except their spines are unpaired and branched. Impacts Honey locust is a deciduous tree up to 20m tall. Skyline Honey Locust. Thorns on plants or thorn-like seeds can cause nasty puncture wounds for gardeners. The honey locust (Gleditsia triacanthos), also known as the thorny locust or thorny honeylocust, is a deciduous tree in the family Fabaceae, native to central North America where it is mostly found in the moist soil of river valleys. Herbicide to Kill Locust Trees. I have read the two previous posts regarding honey locust, but wanted to post a separate a question regarding killing honeylocust. Mature growth is around 35' tall x 30' wide. Tall. Honey Locust, Sweet Locust, Thorny Locust, Sweet Bean Tree, Sweet Locust, Honey Shucks Locust Gleditsia triacanthos . Honey locust invasion. Plant thorn arthritis is a noninfectious inflammation of a joint as a result of a thorn puncturing the joint and leaving residual plant matter lodged within the joint. From the photos, I have some concerns about the base of the tree. This variety loves full sun and can grow in almost any conditions! Loam is ideal, but sand or clay will also be sufficient for this tree to thrive. More work than I think we even invisioned. Like most trees, both varieties of locust tree may develop shoots, or suckers, at the base, though the black locust is more prone to them. It is known to have about 12 different species. Scientific Name: Gleditsia triacanthos ‘Skycole’ This is another variety of the honey locust tree that grows to an average height of 45 feet and spreads to about 35 feet. It often has a wide-spreading canopy and short main trunk. The bark of a Honey locust appears gray to brown in color. The Carol Burnett Show Official Recommended for you Growing to 30-70 ft tall, it also spreads up to 70 ft wide, adding plenty of cool shade to your landscape. What can you tell me? Help please. She even tolerates salty soils. Hardiness zone 4. Re: R4's vs. Locust tree thorns I've cut black locust and honey locust.Honey locust has the big thorns,I just use the chain saw to clean the thorns off.Both are easy to split and both make good heat in the stove.Honey locust thorns are a no no in tires and black locust can be a problem too.When I was a kid my folks had a honey locust tree and I stepped on a thorn.It was a big time hurt. The stout, branching thorns of honey locust make this tree easy to identify at a glance. Buds are mostly embedded in the branch with only the tips protruding. I have lots of wetlands around my property, don't use fertilizers, pesticides or herbicides but these are taking over. It is a fast-growing tree that grows to a height of around 30 meters and a diameter of around one meter. Black locust thorns grow from one-fourth of an inch to one inch in length. The honey locust tree (Gleditsia triacanthos) is otherwise known as sweet bean, sweet locust, and honey shuck. The trunk and branches of honey locust are densely thorny. Had to walk on my heel until I got to vec, drive to house, get some pliers and carefully try to remove the thorn from the shoe sole before I could get the shoe off. It is a common invader of pastures and idle fields, and it is troublesome for farmers whose tractor tires the thorns puncture. … The black can really wreak havoc on your chains especially if its kind of dry. Thorns. Asked February 27, 2017, 1:16 PM EST. Full sun is preferred by these thornless honey locust trees, although young trees will grow well in partial shade. I have recently purchased a farm that has been used for cattle pasture for decades. Black locust or honey? It blooms relatively late in the spring and produces yellow leaves in autumn. Honey Locust. Ability to withstand air pollution, alkaline soil, drought, and flooding, help this hardy tree to thrive in Denver. Ontario Tree Atlas map of non-planted Honey-Locust. Honey locust (Gleditsia spp.) The risk of infection is high. The honey locust tree is a super hardy tree and can grow well in different types of soil. I'm planting various types of oaks and walnut seedlings in the pasture, but there's quite a bit of honeylocust already there. Thank you . This tree is thorn-less and pod-less, which is an added bonus! Pain is similar to being finned by a catfish. Is there a way to rid my gardens of honey locust and hopefully one that is not harmful yo the environment. 2 flats on my tractor this week was the last staw. Honey locust can be controlled more easily than black locust using the methods outlined below because it does not readily form root sprouts. Some selections start out with light yellow leaves that turn green and then yellow again in fall. But it is satisfying work and we are making progress. End of August, 2013. The flowers are considered edible if handled correctly. Honey locust trees (Gleditsia triacanthos) have been admired for centuries, but the native species has thorns and seed pods that cause major ... and are less likely to be serious problems if you keep the trees in good condition by adequate watering and regular removal of dead and damaged branches. Aug 30, 2012 #6 Maui Palm & Tree Care New Member. Honey locust can grow up to 60 to 100 ft. The Honey Locust is one of the most sought after shade trees in Denver. We continue to work on the honey locust removal from the northern most side. hhehe . The leaves appear bright green during summer and change to yellow in fall. Thorns are horrible to deal with but are not attached to tree very well. The leaflets are 3/4 to 1 1/2 inches long, with small widely spaced teeth. On older trees, the bark is grayish brown to black, with clusters of thorns and deep cracks that separate into scaly ridges. Two varieties of locust tree grow in the United States, the honey locust tree and black locust tree. Robinia pseudoacacia, commonly known in its native territory as black locust, is a medium-sized hardwood deciduous tree, belonging to the tribe Robinieae.It is endemic to a few small areas of the United States, but it has been widely planted and naturalized elsewhere in temperate North America, Europe, Southern Africa and Asia and is considered an invasive species in some areas. It is a highly popular shade tree particularly due to its super delicate and ferny appearance. Honey locust trees do not contain toxins, but black locust leaves, bark, and thorns do contain poison. Does anyone have any experience and advice on how and when is the best way to get rid of Honey Locust trees? What else do you need to know? Black locust poisoning: The black locust is a large deciduous tree which has long clusters of scented flowers and flat fruit pods. They do not have the branched thorns that are seen on the trunk of honey locust trees. They are also attacked by diseases such as leaf spot and canker. Black locust is super sensitive to herbicide in my experience. I also have a bindweed and jeruselum artichoke issue taking over my gardens. Light . Jul 2, 2012 #2 Tread lightly. The leaves are alternate, and both compound and double compound leaves on the same plant. Just in case you couldn’t see the one visible thorn in the above image, here it is again in a closer view. Bulldozing, piling, and burning of trees followed by cultivation and planting of soybeans effectively eliminated root sprouts and seed germination. Honeylocust Removal En Masse; From: Daniel Clark City: Vevay, IN: Hi, Thank you for providing so much useful information. Punctures often don't bleed much and may close up quickly, which is one reason they can be dangerous. Didn't do much with thorn tree removal this Spring and Summer due to a couple of projects and with watering needed because of the return of the drought. • Distinctive spines growing from the trunk and limbs can be more than 5 cm long. Both types of locust tree are common ornamental plantings, but these sturdy trees are also useful in preventing erosion and as windbreaks. Now for some botanical terminology with definitions from Plant Identification Terminology by James G. Harris and Melinda Woolf Harris. I have a bid for a black locust removal. I have a piece of property with an old, fallow cattle pasture that I'm turning back into timber. ; Plant thorn arthritis causes the involved joint to be swollen, slightly reddish, stiff, and painful. The young leaves, seeds and inner bark contain various chemicals (robin, robinine and robitin) which can be toxic if large quantities are eaten. Location Pukalani, Hawaii. 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