A forum community dedicated to Ford performance owners and enthusiasts. We then dropped the Pro-Flo 4 intake on the 5.3 and bolted it down with zero problems. I often travel to NHRA Cackle Fest events around California and use the Nomad as a push Vehicle for my vintage dragster.The car is great to travel in and runs great in all conditions. Key to the I did the same thing on my 512. After we installed all of the goodies from COMP in the 5.3-liter, it was time to do something with the factory rockers. The setup wizard is extremely simple and self-explanatory. The Drive has answers. Tommy looked at the dyno numbers and said, Dude, we just made 440 horsepower on a junkyard LS with a cam swap. He was right! mind! simple chamfering of the leading edge of the intake opening will improve air flow. I was able to install it in one afternoon and the wiring was truly plug and play. Off-roaders it works!. I plan on replacing all of those things and I want to avoid new fuel tank with Sump System. Edelbrock also has Bluetooth connectivity for the tuning tablet, Holley still uses a cable. Edelbrock allows remote installation of the ecm. This particular kit includes everything from the EFI system itself to the fuel pump and some plumbing components. The engine was carbureted before I switched to the Edelbrock fuel injection system. Thanks to Mark and Curt, Mark for meeting me out there and going for a ride. On top of that it idles perfectly, throttle response is amazing at any RPM, and gas mileage has increased dramatically. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. New Hemi Engine Swap Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 Vs Holley Terminator X Max origcharger Dec 30, 2021 Dec 30, 2021 #1 origcharger Well-Known Member Local time 11:52 PM Joined Sep 7, 2008 Messages 133 Reaction score 90 Location Iowa Anybody used these? Hello everyone, I'm new here. Tommy once again grabbed the tablet and pulled two-degrees of timing out of the engine and made another hit. Bolt flange works with many 4-barrel applications. Some kits might even come with ignition and fuel system components. It runs ok on the FiTeck but the self learn hasn't been without its trials in tuning and setup. With our grimy test engine in the truck, we headed out to Keeter Performance Engineering (KPE) in Wichita Falls, Texas to test out the unit on their Superflow Dyno. All times are GMT-8. Sniper has several versions. https://forums.edelbrock.com/filedat?photoid=42773, If this is your first visit, be sure to Drivability improved greatly. On our second pull, we hit our 400 horsepower mark and we were stoked. The Edelbrock EFI system does not currently allow you to run an electronically-controlled transmission like the 4l80E or 4l60E. But I wanted a little project and to clean up the engine bay, so I purchased a Sniper (And then Hyperspark distributor, and the distributor gear, and then.. yadda yadda yadda). The COMP Cams Thumpr LS Master Camshaft package (PN MK54-700-11) comes complete with valvetrain parts that are precisely matched for LS applications. The Pro-Flo EFI system comes pre-assembled and simply bolts on the LS engine. I have an Edelbrock ProFlo XT (port injected) on my 496" Mopar RB. Pro-Flo 4 is 5 volts to power the distributor. Pro-Flo 4 EFI systems feature a high performance Edelbrock intake manifold with a 1,000 cfm throttle body, fuel rails and individual injectors for each cylinder. The fuel rails and individual injectors provide such smooth drivability and effortless, instantaneous cold startup. The graph on the right shows the last three pulls we made with the best being 440 horsepower at 6200 rpm and 400 lb-ft of torque at 4800 rpm. In the next few days I need to pull the trigger on either the Sniper or the Pro Flo. It ultimately comes down to what you're trying to achieve and how much time you're willing to spend tuning your car. (I also have an LS FiTech setup available as soon as the Pro Flo 4 arrives!) Great feedback vjrosales. It's not required, but it is an option. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. These are the most simple and affordable types out there. If . 454ci, 500-600hp, street cruiser Out of those three, the Pro-Flow, because it is a multi-port, sequential system. I'm doing a Sniper XFlow install on a 700 hp big block right now. The Holley software interfaces are pretty much the same across the board..just more features in some compared to others. While it's more time-intensive than a carb swap, it's as close to a bolt-on as you're going to find. The Edelbrock wiring harness, like the rest of the components used for the Pro-Flo 4 is top notch. Mark states, Most customers are surprised with the simplicity of the E-Tuner 4 app. Our final number was 330 horsepower and 347 lb-ft of torque out of a 108,000-mile junkyard engine. The PF4 is a great kit. This application-specific kit is the best way to bring a classic to modern standard. npt adapters and 2 90 degree vapor guard fittings. All that was left was bolting on a set of headers, screw in the supplied O2 sensor, and connect it to the Edelbrock harness. You must log in or register to reply here. Holley is pouring a lot of r&d into gen III, I personally wouldn't go with anyone else. I assume you are talking about for a GEN3 Hemi install? more to add from me now i have time after work . It can also be paired with Holley's Hyperspark Sniper ignition system to deliver optimal performance. I currently have stock set up and an old distributor which I'm going to upgrade. It is sequential multi-port and the ecu controls ignition timing too. yes it is more money but you get what you pay for!!!!! Multiport injection is the other option. Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI) is not a new concept in the automotive industry. Its impossible to find anything but fuel injection on modern cars these days. Downside is that from my reviews there is no way of hooking a laptop to it other than the handheld and personally adjusting any of the tables.that the only option is the tablet or phone. I watched the video from Holly on the Hyperspark system, and am impressed. I was a little concerned because I have only installed one fuel injection system prior to this and it didnt go as smooth as advertised. The idea was to take the high-mielage engine like any normal hot rodder would and throw the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 EFI on and see how it does. After looking at the options, I chose the Holley Terminator X. system, but its not ideal for high performance engines. Key to the improved performance of a system like this is the fuel injector location, which is at the end of the runner on the intake manifold right before the air flow stream enters the combustion chamber. A: An EFI system can come with most of what you need to bolt it on. Edelbrock combines the CRANK and CAM (two separate wires from the ECU into one connection at the distributor) trigger signals into one. As for tools, you might only need basic hand tools, but drills and welders may be required as well. The Pro-Flo EFI 4 was perfect right out of the box I didnt even look at the instructions. It's fast, simple and absolutely free. This page was generated at 06:50 AM. Holley Sniper vs. Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 1 C ChargerST Well-Known Member Joined Dec 7, 2011 Messages 106 Reaction score 49 Location Austria Jan 21, 2021 #5 67Dart273 said: You are comparing apples to oranges. Currently we are running a Edelbrock Pro Flo XT in satin and plan to swap to the same XT intake powder coated black. The system came with a cast aluminum intake manifold, throttle body, fuel injectors, fuel rails, sensors, fittings, hardware, ECU, wiring harness, tablet, and detailed instructions. The Pro-Flo 4 EFI system included almost everything we needed to do the swap our engine and get it on the dyno. Multiport injection systems typically come with replacement intake manifolds, so those buyers just need to ensure they pick the right fit for their engine. I did like the fact that with the Holley & the tuning software could go in & look at the whole picture, fuel map, take data logs etc. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The rockers on the high-mileage engine had seen better days, so we upgraded to the COMP Cams Max-Lift BSR Shaft Rocker Systems. This system was developed by Bendix back in 1957. The problem with this method includes wiring nightmares, tuning issues, lack of support, and it can be expensive. I know it pretty much a sniper with comp tuning abilities. There are two primary types of EFI systems you can choose from. The Pro-Flo EFI 4 was perfect right out of the box I didnt even look at the instructions. As with our proven Pro-Flo 4 EFI, the advanced plug-and-play Pro . Tommy once again hit the ignition switch and the 5.3 roared to life. This isn't a feature of a sniper or a terminator though. The Driveand its partners may earn a commission if you purchase a product through one of our links. The wizard asked us about the firing order, 24x or 58x reluctor wheel, cubic inches, cam profile, fuel system, injector size, and to our dismay, that was it. This was a gain of 60 horsepower but we had a problem. This design produces the best fuel You can opt to revamp your ride with a late-model engine swap, which requires a lot of time, money, and resources, or you can make the relatively quick upgrade to electronic fuel injection. Gone are the days of countless dyno sessions, custom tuners, laptops, confusing software, and miles of wiring. I wont settle for anything but the best, and thats the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 system. Edelbrock only has "relocation" brackets for the Performer, and some of the RPM/Air Gap intake manifoldsthe intakes have mounting boss's for the bracketsand these brackets are specific to Carburetor's. So. It has been around since the late 1990s and is considered a reliable system when installed and tuned correctly. Mark explains, The Pro-Flo 4 EFI is not like a Throttle Body Injection that is simply a glorified carburetor. The Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4+ is available for stock Gen I/II Ford Coyote and Dodge Gen III HEMI applications, as well combustion chamber. Is the Edelbrock system better-enough to justify the extra expense? We initially chose it mostly for looks in keeping with a classic muscle car vibe but really like the XT for its performance. The new system was much cleaner and easier to install, the new wireless phone and tablet set-up screens and analog viewing was the best. I love my proflo. 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