After positioning, the holes were expanded in the order of 1.5mm, 3mm, and 6mm, and then expanded to the hole diameter of each part using a taper reamer. The small Switchcraft box-type phone jack (# 112BX) can be used. We hope the information we provide can help you in deciding which products are the best fit for your needs. Its really easy to adjust the units control knobs make your bass guitar emulate an organ, and also some other truly unique sounds found only with the Micro POG. "pageName": ""
The Poly mode attempts to redeem this feature by providing you with a sweet blend of both of the lower octaves to use instead., Like any other Boss product the durability of the OC-3 is nothing to laugh at.
Supporting Members list unlimited gear with no listing fees in the Classifieds, get instant Keyword Alerts, and get Free Shipping at the TalkBass Store. Oops, looks like you forgot something. Aguilar Octamizer? I find this pedal to be extremely fun to experiment with. It sounds thicker than the OC-3 (digital version) I've been using. Although, this comes at a small cost. Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by drumvsbass, May 3, 2018. the TC Electronic Sub and Up? ), but this color selection seems to affect the delivery date. In addition, the position of the switch was decided so that the battery space could be taken. They are both great. There is no doubt in my mind that you will have no problem storing this pedal away, or finding room for it on your pedalboard. I cut a thin transparent plastic sheet into the shape of a board, and attached the aluminum foil tape (double-sided conductive) that I used to make the Stratocaster's pickguard shield. Apparently, noise jumps from around the CMOS on the board to the pots and jacks inside the enclosure when the board is housed in the enclosure. My Octave Multiplexer works perfectly since I bought it new, 15 years ago Nice luck! This is a wet/dry knob. POLY (Polyphonic): Enables polyphonic input. My first EHX pedal broke within 3 months of buying it new. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. When you think of a standard octave pedal something like the Boss OC-2 might come to mind. Turning the knob to the right intensifies the distortion. Re: Is there a smaller alternative to the Boss OC-2. I tried to make an analog octaver and realized the charm of analog sound. Controls the volume of the first octave. Tone Start is a website dedicated to providing in-depth reviews on music-related products for musicians all around the world! As theOC3 is digital it does track better (and on lower notes) but the OC2 has that warmth and unmistakable analog sound which people love. What these octave pedals do exactly is they mix the input signal of your bass with a synthesised signal whose tone is lowered or raised an octave higher than the original. The first is OFF (clean), the middle is the sound that OCT1 is added, and the last is the sound both OCT1 and OCT2 are added. It also features true bypass, so you can be sure that your original tone will remain untouched. They are all unique and wonderful and worth a listen. This fun work was completed in about two hours. Built into the enclosure
This is the one that is 1 octave below your original sound. The synthesised signal is derived from the original input signal by having its frequency halved (octave-down) or doubled (octave-up).
For those who want to make their own effect pedal from now on, I made a page explaining how to select a tool.
Bass octave pedals are extremely useful if youre trying to make your sound bigger. The effect extends into higher frequencies as the knob is turned to the right; turning the knob to the left limits the effect to lower frequencies. Each of these parts has its own volume control, so they can be mixed as desired. I shortened the length of PCB while placing the parts, and finally it was 90 mm. I wouldnt say bass octave pedals are completely necessary for you to keep in your effects chain, but they are still a great tool to have to make you stand out from the crowd. An octave is a effect pedal that generates a sound one or two octaves lower than the original sound and easily reproduces an octave playing style like Wes Montgomery. Not a fan of that thing. I was at a loss for a while, but suddenly I noticed that there was no noise when I tried playing guitar with the board upright in the enclosure. "ATGID": "",
The board design was done using the freeware "KiCAD" for all processes. This time, I designed the printed circuit board by myself as well as the previous analog delay self-made (DM-3 MOD). When SUB is set to ON the Bass Filter and its corresponding knob are activated. The dimensions of the unit come in at 73 (W) x 129 (D) x 59 (H) mm. This dark blue stompbox is actually quite light (weighing in at only200g), and features a sturdy solid aluminium enclosure.
You won't believe the thickness of the sounds from your guitar. Bass octave pedals are octavers that are able to generate a tone that is one octave below the note you are playing. The effect was great, and no noise was added even if the board was housed in the enclosure. The unit can be powered using just a single 9-volt battery, which can be accessed by removing the bottom plate of the pedal. There is no adjustment on this board. The Boss has a deeper tone and sounds more like a video game and the Octron has more mid range. Hes been playing music since he was young, and has been the main content writer at Tone Start for the past few years. Additionally, this also provides you with better tracking.
I put the purchased parts on the PCB. battery), and not only works with bass guitar, butelectric guitar too. This knob allows you to switch freely between 11 different octave modes as listed below. They are also particularly useful for solos too. When I was browsing the internet, there was a person who made OC-2 experimentally. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. Sound sample Which one does track better? When I play a melody with a single note, the octave sounds at the same timing, and it sounds like I'm actually playing a thick string one octave below. As this knob is turned clockwise, the volume of the DRY signal will increase. "reportSuiteIds": "", Controls the volume of the guitars signal. With the Micro POG you have the option of either going an octave up, or an octave down. In addition, some of these pedals are also able to produce a tone that is an octave above, or even two octaves below the note you are playing. Whether youre new to octave effects pedals, or an experienced musician looking to buy a new one, we are sure youll find this guide extremely helpful. (Reference) The circuit operation analysis using a oscilloscope. I got the Octabvre from 3Leaf audio which Im pretty sure is an exact replica of the OC2 but with a true bypass circuit and a tone knob that lets you dial in some synth like distortion. Coming in at second place on our Best Bass Octave Pedal list sits the MXR M288 Bass Octave Deluxe. Turning the SUB switch on gives the sub-octave a deeper, bassier sound.
The DRY signal is the signal present at the INPUT jack. In the first place, if you just want to add the sound one octave lower, I think that the pitch shifter that changes the pitch digitally is more stable. At the top of our list sits the Boss OC-3 Dual Super Octave Pedal, which Im sure this doesnt come as much of a surprise to any experienced octave users out there. Around the frequency divider circuit that creates the pitch signal. No special part is used, but it contains parts (ICs) that are no longer available because it was released in 1982. Main components CMOS CD4013, CD4027, rare operational amplifier LM324.
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Also look at aguilar, mxr, DOD, and tc electronic octavers.
Additionally, we will also be providing our number 1 pick for the best bass octave pedal out there right now!
I believe they're all gone now unless you find one used. Well that wraps up our article on the best bass octave pedals around right now.
In addition, "2SK30A-Y" is used for FET. Very Good items may show a few slight marks or scratches but are fully functional and in overall great shape.
The volume of the sound two octaves down increases as the knob is turned to the right. This pitch waveform is divided into 1/2 and 1/4 using a CMOS flip-flop to create a pitch signal one or two octaves lower. Comparison vid Not to knock purist but there is def a utility in getting an OC3 as it is cheaper and more available. The OC-2 reproduces 3 separate tones: the original tone, one octave below, and 2 octaves below. "siteSection": "", The Foxrox Octron 3 is pretty cool, and is very close to an OC-2, got one on my board at the moment.
If you do attempt to experiment a little though, you can create some awesome sounding hiccups that may sound just as good or even better because of it! From my understanding, the OC-3 models the OC-2 but as it's a digital instead of analog pedal like the OC-2, they won't sound exactly the same. The original POG has been incredibly successful over the years, and has been used on many different recordings. Let us know what you think in the comments below! This is also not manufactured and difficult to obtain, but I was lucky enough to buy it.
The layout of the pedal is very simple and sleek. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. These are labelled DRY, SUB, and UPPER. The JK flip-flop CD4027 is used as an alternative to the BA634. The trace design is fairly easy since the two-layer board can draw trace on the front and back.
document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Tone Start is a website dedicated to providing in-depth reviews on music-related products for musicians all around the world! Copyright(c) 2021 Toshi All Rights Reserved, Designed a two-layer printed circuit board ordered from "Fusion PCB", the previous analog delay self-made (DM-3 MOD), I analyzed the operation of the circuit myself. Some people, for that reason, record with the OC2 and tour with the OC3, which is honestly a great compromise as crowds will just be paying attention to the subs you'll be sending ;), Thanks for all your replys :) I'm going with a valeton OC 10, OC2 clone, Press J to jump to the feed.
Operation check and noise suppression No noise occured when the board was upright in the enclosure. DRIVE: This functions as a DRIVE knob when the MODE knob is set to DRIVE. With the OC-3 you also have the ability to add distortion to your octave notes using the pedals new drive mode.
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We will be checking out the best and most talked-about bass octave pedals, and give you some insight on what to expect from each of them.
OC3 is cheaper and easier to find. One example of a digital pedal would be the Boss OC-3, which is able to process chords and not just the single notes you are playing. He just did a short special order run of Subterranea, but it's the last. The board size was decided to be 60mm wide according to the enclosure "HAMMOND 1590N1" width inside. Add some low to mid mids, cut the top end and adjust the low end to suit, and you have an OC-2. TalkBass utilizes technology from Skimlinks that may give us a small affiliate commission on purchases made via links on our site. This is clearly different from the digital pitch shifter. Somebody mentioned EBS, it tracks like a miracle & sounds great on guitar. (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Do you agree with our top pick? The Sub n Up even has a setting for tracking as crappy as the OC-2 does. I'd hate to have purchased an OC2 and then have something happened to it, on tour or from wear and tear. For me as a self-made nerd, soldering parts is the most enjoyable task. The principle of the analog octaver is like a Hammond organ that makes a sound by turning a gear (called a tone wheel). You must log in or register to reply here. The ZIP file contains the schematic, board design data, and original component data. If you want to hear just the octave, then set the DIRECT LEVEL knob all the way down. Counter-clockwise is 100% dry. As a result, the half-wave rectified tone is inverted every other wave and converted into a signal with twice the wavelength. I used KiCAD Ver.5.19. As this knob is rotated clockwise, the volume of the SUB OCTAVE signal will increase. Is there a smaller alternative to the Boss OC-2? Is the OC3 sub synth sound comparable to the OC2? The Micro POG (Polyphonic Octave Generator) is an ingenious piece of equipment that takes everything you loved about the original POG released in 2005, and places it in a more simplistic and miniaturised form. I tested the OC-2 and Octron side by side. Also, I tried to add a 330p capacitor to the pitch signal output from CMOS to remove the sharp edge of waveform. The PCB data created using "KiCad (Windows 64-bit) Version: (6.0.4), release build" is provided. The OC-3 weighs in at a mere 440g (incl. "2SC1815" can also be used. The unit features two separate 1/4 jack inputs for each of these instruments which are labelled as GUITAR IN and BASS IN. We would like to know your opinion on our best bass octave pedal list! All processes of PCB design can be done with the freeware "KiCAD". If you want to make it in the same way, please refer to the figure below. It allows you to produce some really awesome sounds. Others are ordinary electronic components. The SUB OCTAVE signal is one octave below the original input signal, half the frequency of the input signal. KiCad board design data download (ZIP file). Find an article about your favorite effect pedal. Controls the output volume of the OCTAVE UP signal. If you can't get it, "2SK2880" can be used instead. No clue but I want your OC-2 if you find a replacement!
As mentioned previously, the Micro POG is a miniaturised version of the original. The OC-3 sounds pretty much the same as the OC-3 to be honest. This is a clever circuit that replaces the pitch of the input sound with the sound one octave lower.
Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. { Why do so few bassists talk about the EHX Octave Multiplexor as that synthy womp sound? We can tell you now that the pedal feels very sturdy, solid, and is most certainly built-to-last.. Good Deal List: bearbeams, pena_55, sonidero, greyscales, ChetMagongalo, xchristophex, Monkey Boy, krautrocker, osbornkt. Read more. Since I chose "green" this time, it took 5 business days from ordering to completion of production. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Also on the high end side of things there are still some B-Stock Mu-FX Octave Dividers, but they are pretty pricey. This time, I actually made it using the circuit of OC-2. by hbombgraphics Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:47 pm, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], goosekevin and 25 guests. The knob is 4 o'clock for Direct and 12 o'clock for OCT1 / OCT2. I think it depends on the manufacturing situation of the factory at that time, but the most common color "green" is delivered fastest. For Sale: Bass Guitar Strings and Accessories, The TB Bazaar: Gear For Sale from our Sponsors, For Sale: Double Bass Amps, Strings & Accessories, Wanted: Bass Guitars, Amps, and Accessories, Wanted: Double Basses, Amps & Accessories. Therefore, I made a shield plate using aluminum foil tape. Turning the BASS FILTER knob counter-clockwise will make the sub-octave sound deeper and bassier.PLEASE NOTE: the BASS FILTER knob is only active when the SUB switch isset to ON. This adjusts the amount of distortion in the sound. Controls the throaty, midrange octave-below tone mix, Controls the mix of your direct bass signal with the octave effect, Controls the deep and smooth octave below mix, Adds up to +14dB of internally adjustable low-mid punch (400Hz) or midrange pop (850Hz). Board design requires some experience (I worked for an electronics design company about 25 years ago). You might not dig those either then. JavaScript is disabled. The UP OCTAVE signal is one octave above the original input signal or twice the frequency of the original input signal.
The circuit diagram was also posted, so I referred to it and entered it in the circuit diagram software.
A solid budget alternative to the OC-2, and made in Japan too! No suggestions, but out of curiosity, what's your grouch with the OC-3?
When I made the board and checked the operation, I discovered that the circuit that I referred to contained two mistakes. The Pure Octave gives you a tonne of options to style your tone using the primary MODE knob. The standard Boss layout of the OC-3 gives you access to four different tone knobs, which we have detailed below for you to become familiar with:. The main parts CD4013 and CD4027 are available everywhere. I would get a different model before I bought the OC3. I placed an order with "Fusion PCB" in Shenzhen, China, who produces 10 PCBs for $ 5.
However, this shield sheet may not be necessary depending on the size of the enclosure and the mounting method of the PCB. This is a list page of the effect pedals that I made. The sub-octave can be crafted to sound like a massive dub bass line, or fine-tuned to fatten up your riffs or solos. No, the OC-3 is not an option. It looks like that piece of gear is gone. Provides both -1 and -2 octaves down with a clean blend. When the SUB switch is set to OFF, only the High Filter is active. This is an IC with one circuit of ordinary flip-flops and not generally available. Just wondering if theres anything out there that's as good as, or better than, the OC-2.
I am a self-made nerd.
The schematic of BOSS OC-2 can be found in the service manual for repairs. Traditional octave pedals are monophonic, which means you can only play one note at a time while using it.
I want to say the Akai Unibass does something like that, but I could be making that up.
By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. Reminds me of that movie Bad Santa. It's a primitive mechanism, but it's still smart and complete. Each of the three control knobs of the Micro POG are detailed below for your convenience: Controls the output volume of the DRY signal. "pageType": "", They are one of the more popular octave pedals owned and used by musicians over the years. The octave sound comes out as expected, but the direct sound (original sound) has a little jarring noise. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The MXR M288 is a dual-voice octave pedal that offers a variety of options including: true bypass, analog tone, and multiple ways to shape your tone.
OCT2 (OC-2 Compatible): In addition to providing sounds one octave below the original input, this also allows you to output sounds lowered by two octaves. The resistors are 1/4W 5% carbon, the capacitors is cheap box type or ceramic type, and the electrolytic capacitors are also the cheapest. However, the octave sound was heard separately from the original string sound, which made me feel uncomfortable.
Very cool octave down pedal from Japan aping the control set and sound of the now very popular and collectible BOSS OC-2. Finishing off our list is the one-and-only Pure Octave brought to you by the guys over at Mooer. I guess it's because there is a delay in the octave sound. Jealous partners disrupting bands, part 373: And now it's happening to me. The POLY (Polyphonic) function allows the OC-3 to process chords. I think the person who first devised this circuit was probably an analog master. Changes depending on the mode set by the MODE knob. I don't use the uncool LED holder.
I've learned the real key to the OC-2 sound is EQ. The sound created by the Octave Multiplexer has been around since the seventies, and allows you to produce a variety of warm analog tones that are one octave below your input signal. Two CMOS flip-flops are used.
Ive had the OC-3, it doesnt sound nearly as good as the OC-2 IMO. That's all that I can think of in that style/price bracket. The enclosure was processed using a hand drill. Tonestart.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. This means that the pedal will fit much easier onto your pedalboard due to its small diecast housing. Recording environment: Gibson Les Paul (front PU)-> Self-made octaver-> ZOOM G3X (Fender Twin Reverb amp simulator clean)-> UR22mkII-> DAW (Studio One). The unit is incredibly small, sizing in at only 42 (W) x 93.55 (D) x 52 (H) mm, and weighing a mere 160g. This vid should help inform you of the subtle differences and hear them in context. The current BOSS latest model OC-3 is composed of digital circuits and can be used with chords with multiple notes. Electro-Harmonix makes a second appearance on our list of the best bass octave pedals with their Octave Multiplexer. Which Boss Octaver would you prefer? The Pog, and the Sub & Up are both digital. Component mounting and soldering If you take a listen you can hear it being used by The White Stripes in many different instances on their albums. The Mooer Pure Octave is a great purchase for those on a budget, but if you are looking for a bass octave pedal that provides you with more flexibility and options, then I would recommend one of the other pedals mentioned on this list. The Electro Harmonix Micro Pog?
For shielding, I put it under the CMOS chip and the operational amplifier LM324. I fixed it by cutting the trace on the printed circuit board and reconnecting it. The volume of the UP OCTAVE signal will increase as this knob is rotated clockwise. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Ive had the Foxrox and a few others, and havent found anything I like better than the OC-2its a classic for good reason. I plan on building a Parasitstudios U-235 suboctave this weekend. They can help add some meat and complexity to your sound by giving it that much needed oomph. I went for the OC3 because it was cheaper than the OC2 and used it in a band setting for 5 years or so with had no complaints at all. RANGE: This functions as a RANGE knob when the MODE knob is set to POLY. OCT (-2 Octave Level): This functions as a OCT2 knob when the MODE knob is set to OCT2. OC2 if you can find one.
They definitely don't sound the same. Apparently, the pitch signal (square wave) divided by CMOS was added on the direct sound. I made a 3mm hole and pushed the LED from the inside and fixed it with super glue. The manufacturing fee is only $ 5, but the shipping fee by DHL is $ 20, so the total is $ 25. I'm hoping it will give me the same vibe with slightly better tracking. I checked the operation and tried playing with a guitar. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed.
One is the CD4013, which can be obtained anywhere. The unit is built to the exact same standards of durability weve seen out of every other Boss pedal. Analog octaver BOSS CE-2 The same phrase will be played three times. If you have a relatively close sounding sub octave, the rest can be accomplished with an EQ pedal on the octave sound. There are three different control knobs associated with the Pure Octave pedal. Furthermore, Boss have also gone and included their original OC-2 mode found on their previous model, which is a great feature to keep on the OC-3., It should be noted that the OC-3 only produces notes that one or two octaves down from your original sound, and not up. I own them and tested them side-by-side, Greatest name for a pedal ever.Sausage Fingers. In order to suppress the noise, I tried to wire the power supply of the input operational amplifier (TL074) directly to the power supply input and increase the bypass capacitor, but it had no effect. Clean sub with fuzz upper would be so sweet. You are using an out of date browser. I housed this ovtaver in a gold-painted enclosure of HAMONND's "1590N1". We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Eats the OC2 for lunch (imo) and delivers more low end than I know what to do with please discuss. Gold Supporters see zero ads! Even though I already have an OC-3, I tried to make an analog version. Thankfully the Micro POG is still able to provide the same flawless tracking and smooth polyphony of its predecessor, which makes it an easy contender for one of the best bass octave pedals out there right now.
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