Its just a random number generator with some parameters to keep it within a certain range: timber.visitorCounter = function () { var maxQty = 3; I miss being able to fold in place vs out to one side. They dont have the volume or the marketing leverage to be able to price a comparable product low and turn a profit. Thank you for the great information on your blog. Ive been curious.
That would make it not possible to mount the pull up bar to hold it in place. The height you install the rack at relative to the floor is critical.
Im glad it answered your questions! Does anyone know? Thanks for the info! Theres plenty to compare between the brands Ive selected, and in this case they cant be explainedin a comparison chart. Itsa marketing issue, I imagine.
Distance from WallThe minimal distance from the wall, 21 or so, makes sense for any folding rack. I had this setup for about a year, worked great. Im set on getting Rogue Fitness but would like to know their newest model. https://www.tworepcave.com/3006/power-rack-attachments-compatibility-master-list/#comment-8606. 505 lb is beyond the limit, as you can see in the below IG video where a screw ripped out of the stringer. Folding MechanismUnique gas shock system that makes it effortlessto pull out andfold back, with locking pins to make it child-proof. All the imitators below require you to remove the pull up bar and fold the rack parts sideways instead. var randomlyValue=; Hey, I posted about the Rogue stringers working with the T-3 folding rack. Gotta say, I never thought of that. (Imagine the left sides post rubbing the paint off the right sides 41.5 bar somewhere close to where the right sides hinge point is, long before youre able to swing the right side anywhere approaching a satisfactorily closed position.). Or basically those Matadors will fit any other 2x3 or 3x3 rack with 1 holes. I also bought two longer standard 3/4 bolts from home depot for 27c each to make it easier to install. Unless Titan changed their T3. I also am skeptical of the x sold in the last 24 hours ticker. Thanks! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions. Thanks. Makes sense that they are actually in the higher part of the price range. I never had a rack before so I didn't know what I like and what I don't. Thanks, Ill look into those and see if I can get them added somewhere. Unlike the 23 Infinity racks, Rogue wont be moving away from the Monster Lite racks for the foreseeable future, so youll have good compatibility moving forward. The locking wheels also feel cheap, youd expect better locking mechanism for $200 price tag. Privacy Policy Otherwise, not a big deal. Thank you for the details! Another advantage of these is you can get a really stable squat rack in a garage gym without drilling into your garage floors concrete to anchor it. I love the Rogue product and would like to know if it will fit within my wall space parameters. The folding design forces a tad bit of play in some joints, making it not feel as solid as a comparable 2x3 rack. A little awkward to get the bar around in there. To save money, only do this to one side of the rig and stick with the current design on the other side. Realistically, I have heard from someone who does rack pulls on the spotter arms on such a rack. That was really helpful and even the additional updates are great. Add the overall width plus the depth and that should give you a pretty good idea. All rights reserved. The Rogue Infinity and Monster Lite attachments will mostly fit well enough. The hole spacing Rep uses is also metric, ruling out attachments that have to be secured with a safety pin. Being as its attached to the wall, that might not matter as much as on a freestanding rack where theres more potential wobble. Do you have any opinion on the RML-90SLIM by any chance? You need to buy some boards at the lumber store. Rogues 33 racks are 49 wide, which makes it a tighter fit for your bar than 48 or 47 wide racks. David founded Adamant Barbell in 2007 and Two Rep Cave in 2018. Besides Kabuki's videos, the co founder being a metallurgist or, I can confirm the Titan T3 Spotter Arms do work with the, installation takes skill unless you get the stringer, 1 year return policy and 30 day free return shipping. I dont know about the trolley arms, but as far as what you already have in hand, just consider every angle and movement thats going to happen for different exercises or moving parts between exercises, and it will probably all work. We sometimes make the mistake of thinking Rogue comes up with all this new stuff, but often they just popularize an existing idea by putting their huge market share behind it. The tight fit is even more the case with another rack I want to bring to your attention, the Rogue Monster Lite Slim Rack. Or their Monster Lite Matador will fit their 3x3. Accommodating Floor SlopeAs Johnny Wild pointed out in the comments, the Rogue bracket design has some wiggle to it, which is not sloppy design but is actually helpful for allowing you to lift and drop the sides of the rack as you fold it into place, and to accommodate the approximately 1/4 to 1/2 slope in a garage. The major incompatibility to watch out for are racks that have smaller than 1 holes.
Laser-Cut NumbersHeres a good addition. I bought a Rogue RML-3W with the 21.5 arms last summer and have been building my garage gym around it ever since. I don't know about other racks. Titans racks are all 48 outside width, meaning the 23 rack gives you 2 of extra space inside than the 33. there are a ton of side folding squat racks out there, but only PRX has the folding down version. I dont know, but I think its unlikely to fit. var min = 25; No one says you have to squat ATG using the bottom hole for your spotter arm. Metric SizingLike Titans rack, Reps is not strictly a 33 rack. I just purchased the Monster Lite Slinger and was planning to install it to my wall rack, when Rogue informed me that this is not recommended due to my wall structural concerns. The stringers help you in two ways: Titan T-3 and X-3 folding racks are their 23 and 33 racks. What are your thoughts on this rack? The only other negative thing to say is the ethos rolling plate holder only has 2 locking wheels which makes the whole unit jerk around when loading and unloading the weigh plates. Have you figured out the best solution? Yea, thats why im leaning toward it. UHMW lined J-cups and feet. The 21.5 gives you enough room for squats, bench presses, and most any other racks exercises, giving enough room for your feet, head, and bench, as appropriate. The folding racks are surprisingly hard to navigate to on Rogues site menu. I was curious about the Ethos line, looked like a step up in quality from the Fitness Gear line. Definitely a bigger footprint. But the hinge point isnt a quick release design, and repeated disassembly/reassembly of the hinge point would be annoying at the very least (and Im guessing would cause unwanted wear/fatigue of the threads over time, if you were committed enough to want to do this every time). My question is how much actual wall space will it take if you fold them both to one side ? Rogue basically offers so many of the best features of these racks that its an easy choice. It can be installed either in a garage or in a room of your home. The specific scenario I balk at for these racks is missing a low bar squat where the bar hits will under far less control than say a rack pull or even a missed bench. Ill sum up the pros and cons of each one. Once you include shipping, the prices are almost identical for the Rogue RML-3W Fold Back Wall Mount Rack vs the PRX Profile with Pull up Bar. Ethos is not even close to Rogue brand pricing. I have the t-3 21.5 but need to get stringers.
Great article! Ill have to update this with the Rogue color versions, and a bit about the width issues. They also have the 23 R-3W still. I should also mention that I was planning on buying the Rogue LT-1 50 Cal Trolley Arms to go on this same rack as well. I think one allowed an 18 and no one recommended 24. They kind of priced themselves out of the market. The lack of a stringer option hurts a bit. (If the doors in your home had a hinge point going through the middle of the door, youd hear a crunch anytime you opened a door more than 90. I cant find much information about it online and would be interested in your opinion. Thanks for this article. UHMW lined cups and feet, quick attach pins, 1.25 pull up bar, etc. Michael, that is correct, the Rogue attachments wont fit. I dont know anything about the quality of their products, and sometimes the details can make a big difference in how everything fits together and moves as expected. That goes for all similarwall mounted squat racks. How does the T-3 rack connect to the Rogue stringers hardware wise? Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Another issue is the rogue scrapes your floor (opening and closing). Sometimes companies have a new revision after its been out of stock for months. (They do offer a couple of flying pull-up bars, but those designs are a) permanent, not removable, and b) would add far too much height to be able to fit in my garage with a 100 high ceiling. FYI, I did go through enough of the checkout process to find that freight shipping to my location would be $214.92, making it not as great of a deal as it might first appear. Yeah I imagine something interesting has happened with that a few times and just hasnt been caught on video yet, other than the Prx rack test. That particular rack is the only one compact against the wall like that, other than the folding racks. Again I might not need it but I would want the flexibility. A stringer across the wall studs helps, whether its wood or steel, the way it has several screws securing it to multiple studs in the wall. Beware the details!! The specs are appealing 33, made in the US, and stringers included for $465 (currently). With PRX, you avoid that too. I dont know how, but it fits according to Johnny Wilds comment here. var range=; So is the sold in the last 24 hours thing: timber.flashSoldBar = function () { I think the gas shock design is patented. They do make a few different pull-up bars, but nothing which could be easily pinned into place which helps to provide more space from the wall. Hopefully Titan has them again. var minTime = 24; I saw Rogues warning on the spotter arms. You get free shipping to begin with, and then you can send it back within a year, on a whim, and get all your money back. That could be a problem with some benches for sure, especially at the higher incline positions. TL;DR its a problem unless the product is redesigned. Itll be right around the range of maybe fitting, maybe not. Rogues shipping is higher than PRX. They cant quite meet Rogues quality, because their equipment is made in China and subject to spot inspections when they get them instead of constant inspection of each piece by their own employees. Some specs given on their site say 50 width, but that includes things like brackets or feet. At least its all Rogue parts, so you arent dealing with bad fitting attachments on top of this! A post shared by Garage Gym Reviews (@garagegymreviews). I dont see much about this company or rack online. The X-3 comes with two pairs of J-cups rather than one, and they are UHMW-lined unlike the bare steel J-cups included with the T-3. Its 75mm, which is 2.95, and metric hole spacing as well, ruling out any Rogue ML attachments that require a hitch pin in a second hole. Browse by Topic The RML-3W has 33 tubing. Depending on his mood, he's into weight training, running, bodyweight exercises, and hitting the heavy bag. It looks like the T-3 changed some over time. Thats some dishonest marketing right there. The stringer (the piece against the wall) should be designed better so it would take more screws and thus handle more weight. Rogue put Westside hole spacing on the uprights. Fringe split the difference and did 2.5 square tubing instead of 3 square or 2x3. Doing this before and after workout could become a *chore* if youre also vertically challenged (at least for the top ones). A subreddit devoted to working out at home. And Texas Strength Systems has a really nice competition style squat stand that can break down for more room. With the PRX, it takes 10 seconds and no need to take off the pull up bars or the J-cups. However, it looks like many benches, and the Vulcan adjustable bench for sure (Thanks Robert for the comment on this), will work in a moderate incline with the 21 deep racks. And i'm not quite sure why it would be necessary to want your landmine attached to the very bottom hole. var inc = 1; The only negative thing I will say about it is that its made in China and not as good quality as rogue but $ comparison is a no brainer. It will feel more solid than a folding rack because it has no moving parts. It would add cost to the product, but youd get more compactness when folded. Keep in mind the kipping bar does not fold back itself, so its going to be sticking out 12 from the wall as you fold the rack in. if ($(#visitor_counter_visitors).length) { Their product descriptiontells you the whole unit is 52 wide, but theyre including the brackets in that. The front face of the uprights are a mere 14 from the wall. The above shows why. var r = Math.floor(Math.random() * (max min + 1)) + min; You can use your titan pull up bar. For more space for dynamic pull up movements, you will want the 41.5 deep. This is true for most racks. Sorry Tom, just saw this! These are valuable for getting your J-cups or safety arms set at the right height. Great article. Yeah I knew it before. What this means is 1on center between the holes in the height range you would use for bench pressing, to help you set the J-cups and safety bars in the perfect spot. Get at least the regular. If you dont / wont us the pull up bar is the Titan for cost saving purposes able to just move the to fixtures in 2 inchs when installing to eliminate that awkward 50 inch width. I am very happy with my purchase. minTime = Math.ceil(minTime); Very nice investigative work! After looking at the bolts mounting the rack to the stringer, they must be Rogue as they are silver and Titans bolts are all a gold tinge. https://www.bellsofsteel.us/product/folding-rack/. Can Ethos stinger be used interchangeably wit Titan X-3? In 2014 PRx Performance invented and patented this rack. No need to go to the lumber store and pick up and cut some 26 boards to use as backplates. They have other marks on the uprights tohelp you put the two bar catches at the same height and not have to eyeball it too hard. Reps rack is somewhat compatible with Monster Lite attachments. https://www.coloradostrengthequipment.com/products/rex-series-folding-rack?variant=31133406462083. Consider sandwich J-cups that stick out from the rack and gives your bar more side-to-side wiggle room for better safety when re-racking. var maxTime = 24; I think they mainly realized the orange color didnt fit everyones decor. Titan for example does ok with some things, but this rack needs to be all perfectly aligned so that you can install it with nothing weird going on in its stability, connections, and fold-up procedure. But I digress.). Am I being foolish by attempting this? Hoping to get the Rogue, but if it doesnt fit, theres no point. I am talking about using J cups for Squats, shrugs, calf raises etc. The video a few paragraphs below shows the foldingmechanism pretty well. The requirement of the garage gym dictates a foldable rack however which typically arent as tall. A Non-Folding Alternative, and Space Considerations, https://www.tworepcave.com/3006/power-rack-attachments-compatibility-master-list/#comment-8606, https://www.coloradostrengthequipment.com/products/rex-series-folding-rack?variant=31133406462083, https://www.tworepcave.com/3006/power-rack-attachments-compatibility-master-list/, Power Rack Attachments & Compatibility 2022 Master List, Made-in-the-USA Gym Equipment 2022 Master List, 2022 Wall-Mounted Folding Squat Racks Comparison, Recall: Nautilus T616 & T618 Treadmills Start on Their Own and Cause Fall Hazard, The Best Deep-Bite Powerlifting Bars Ohio Power Bar and Others (2022), I think the market isn't really big enough for someone who has, Fair point. I dont know their hole sizing, for compatibility with other rack attachments, and whether its really 33 tubing or a ways off like Titan due to being made to mm sizing. Imagine that. Attachment OptionsBeing as this is an Monster Lite rack, Rogues Monster Lite attachments will fit this rack. More things to think about when getting one. Ive been looking at the RML-90SLIM rack a bit. maxTime = Math.floor(maxTime); EDIT: I cant make this comment box respect any formatting, so everything above is squished together, but basically those things are just little javascript random number generators. Anyway, the Slim Rack might work even better than a folding rack for you, if you dont mind being close to the wall and you dont need a rack that folds tighter against the wall to be out of the way. Behold! Looks like they only have that one model that is spaced far from the wall and therefore cant fold inwards compactly like some others. I dont think itll be a mere 8 from the wall. There were a few iterations in design, and at this point the only difference between them is the tubing size. Copyright 2007-2022 Two Rep Cave. They can wobble a little under loads. Like Rogue, you can leave the J cups in place if youre folding at least one side outward. At the price point for Ethos, you are into Rogue and Titan brands for comparison. Should be the same, no? Maybe that is why it didnt fit? Im tall so I require a higher kipping bar. It says above that the Rogue Stringers work for the Titan T3 but Im wondering how that is possible if the T3 is wider than the Rogue racks? If you visualize it, the sides will overlap, so maybe 8 or so from the wall? Titan cuts corners with design to lower the price. He has steel stringers (which Titan used to sell and maybe will again) lag screwed to the studs. Several things on the page are odd. Some appropriate ones would be the landmine base, rope anchor, and many more.
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