and then it was published. But as it is, the linked article does not reference any years. (Sorry if this becomes long-winded, I'm sure it will be!).
You must respect this consensus, and not keep changing it every time you post here.
Now, I personally consider '77 to be late-70's, so I feel it's more accurate to say that Waters became the dominant force in the band during the late-70s as opposed to "mid-70s," when the band was still more collaborative, Second Edit: In "Future Directions," I added after [[[Wright stated that he "wouldn't mind playing the Pink Floyd 'music' again,"]]] the line "but said nothing solid about reuniting with the actual members."
Only in the U.S. would someone say "They is a band". Some funny guy wrote "the best fucking band ever" at the right side of the page. The only thing worse than controversial changes, is doing same and avoiding discussion, or being overly defensive about it, which are problems we've had on this article in the past. Dave Gilmour never asked Roger Waters to join him on stage. It's time we had a policy about this. One of the best bands of all time. As Surrey's leading independent auctioneers we pride ourselves on being a family firm providing the best service, knowledge and expertise.
I have introduced the notion in the intro that Syd was from Cambridge, though have not taken that any further. Feel free to revert (obviously) if you feel I have screwed up and I apologise if I have offended anyone! Judicata (talk) 20:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply], British English accepts group names and group pronouns as plural. Bonnie MacLean gave a nod to two contemporary cultural trends, the Nehru jacket of the well-dressed hipster and the psychedelic pattern of the fabric, to advertise British group Pink Floyd's appearance at the Fillmore. Pink Floyd - Original Concert Poster, 'Get Your Kicks' November '66, The Sound/Light Workshop, Psychedelic Pop featuring The Pink Floyd & Mixed Media, It All Happens at All Saints Hall, Powis Gardens, W11, 20 x 22.5 inches. david bowie was a fan of syd barrett era floyd, having covered 'see emily play', but it is too general to say he was influenced by a large body of floyds work. Just my 2 cents. I do realize there is no reason to expect the Pink Floyd article would be renamed. Thanks! "In 1995, band leader Gilmour ceased planning new tours for Pink Floyd after their "Division Bell" tour." Dating from the bands earliest days in 1966, the year after they formed and when the legendary Syd Barrett was still the frontman, they were led by a single example (above) for Marquee Club concerts on December 22 and 29 that year, which sold for 16,000 against hopes of just 800. Until Pink Floyd (not David Gilmour) say they are finished, they are not. The 2nd printing is on smooth glossy stock and has a Wolfgang's Vault notation in the lower right hand margin. Regarding the argument that Pulse has new material: there are no new songs on it, and the music was recorded in 1994. 19:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]. You would be right to revert any changes in that regard. Estimate: 500 - 800. The infobox is designed to give at-a-glance facts to the casual reader.
Due to being so close to public highways it was dismantled to ground level. Jubileeclipman 18:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply], Sorry, seems a bit messy - should all be reverted - changing it might mean that it loses it status as a featured article. Too many to sort through. Thoughts? Hopefully someone can get to them. As soon as it arrives, we'll issue a full refund for the entire purchase price. 2c of WP:WIAFA. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 10:53, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply], Wouldn't it just be easier to say PF were an English rock band? There was no performance in 2004. This may or may not be justified, but editors have built all these articles some time ago as a complete set, and there seems to be approval for this. Please, let's discuss it here before we get into more edits and reverts. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. This Scots Pine was in decline showing signs of decay at the base, deemed unstable it was to be dismantled to ground level. "group hug" picture: I suppose the fame of the picture is POV, but is it really so problematic? Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.98.104 (talk) 18:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply], This is so simple. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply], Str1977, virtually everything you mentioned was discussed in this section, and I think it's clear that you hadn't read it when you posted what you did, and made edits several times to the article. But I'd also be fine with the other way round as long as the article is consistent. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply], Should there be a mention of this in the article? Individual songs from albums can be in a completely different genre from the album as a whole, and it is not appropriate for us to have a general policy for this. (now moved immediately above); the discussion here is about the infobox, but it may be that the body of the article needs to be altered to match what we've decided.
The legal aspect was totally ripped apart into two sentences. Waters' North American 2007 tour. An administrator has move-protected the Pink Floyd article; there is no longer a "move" tab at the top. A single was taken off the 1972 'Obscured By Clouds" release. I removed the POV tags because if someone wants to fix this problem, they should review the article and make their own decisions as to what needs to be fixed. He was in the T-Set and The Pink Floyd Sound. Posters ship within 3 - 4 business days in durable cardboard tubes. Why choose Contour Tree & Garden Care Ltd? In the interview Nick Mason said it would be nice if Roger could join them on stage. I have tried numerous times to get this figured out with FedEx but nothing has been resolved. The word "group" is not like the word "media," which is the plural of "medium." Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.70.164 (talk) 03:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply], Rick Wright did not legally rejoin Pink Floyd until 1990, in the "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" album he is listed as a session musician not a member of Pink Floyd. contribs) 02:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply], I'm not so sure about this. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply], This is clearly either inaccurate usage or just plain wrong. I'm not sure we need to revert everything (and it's probably not possible to automatically revert at this point), but I was surprised that a well established featured article should receive such an "overhaul" (so many edits in a short time, and not done to standard). L Preceding unsigned comment added by Lpavleti (talk contribs) 17:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply], Yesterday one editor removed reviews from 5 different Pink Floyd album articles. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply], Follow-up: You said, "If all members are former members, all six would belong not into the former members box but into the members box. Ummagumma23 (talk). Fine with me. Sold for 3200. A few months ago, genre fields were removed from the infobox, then put back. As a fan & user of Wikipedia, I'm just trying to help improve the various articles as best as I can with my knowledge of things that are close to me, like music & movies. Click here to post the first comment. I already posted a link to the infobox instructions: As an ending date, I would prefer 1995 Past versions of the page have said 1994, 1995, 1996, 2001, 2005, and the present. Sorry, but that needs to be said. We take great pride in the fact that hundreds of thousands of artists have chosen Fine Art America to fulfill their orders, and we look forward to helping you select your next piece! According to the "Pink Floyd Online" site, which I think most of us would regard as reasonably reliable, the group were still using other names like Sigma 6 as late as Autumn 1966, so the first use of The Pink Floyd Sound must have come near the end of that year. i am not disputting the fact that bob klose may have been in a band with the other members of pink floyd. There are several other places this happens, too. Yes, there has never been an announcement of a split, and yes Pink Floyd still legally exists, but they have not done anything as a regular operating group in almost 15 years, with no plans to reform other than for a one-off, or short reunion, and the chances of even that happening are slight. Each article's infobox contained multiple ratings and links to reviews. --Freedom (song) (talk) 19:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply], Pink Floyd discography has been nominated for featured article. Year of formation: is this really in dispute? Read it and weep! 21:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]. The UK, NZ, Aus, Canada all treat this as "textbook" proper English.
It certainly was: The question of whether to categorize any members as "current" was the whole reason this section was initiated!
If nobody else cares, I won't bother to revert, but if you agree these changes should be reverted, please post here. A short list of reasons to move-protect a page includes: "Pages subject to persistent page-move vandalism". The owner/operators are highly qualified to NPTC standards and have a combined 17 years industry experience giving the ability to carry out work to the highest standard. Any more questions? Next thing I know, I get a message saying that my additions could constitute as "vandalism". Contour Tree & Garden Care Ltd are a family run business covering all aspects of tree and hedge work primarily in Hampshire, Surrey and Berkshire. Pink Floyd presented themselves as a psychedelic music band in 1967, and this term best fits their first album. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply], Dear Knight, you said in your edit summary you would raise the issue of PF end dates on user talk. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply], First Edit: Changing the period that Roger became dominant in from "mid-1970's" to "late-1970's." Ummagumma23 (talk), Why is it listed 2003-2007? Mind you, this is a question, not criticism, so don't bring out your guns when you reply on this please. The sale also featured a series of lots associated with Freddie Mercury of Queen, including the chrome-plated metal necklace he wore frequently on stage and in private during the height of the bands success from 1975 to 1979, which sold for 7500. Instead of reverting the whole lot back and forth, let's look at each one and see what's needed. Sold for 3200. See Punk rock for an article with formatted citations. There are many reference books on Pink Floyd used in this article, and they all cover this info. Look for instance at. But to be accused of "vandalism" when all I'm trying to do is strengthen the articles.I find that really, really offensive. The first studio album release that was a product of Roger's dominance in the band was "Animals," which was released in 1977. What good is it to him to learn about 'The Tea Set' and all that? Sold for 4000. It measures 14" x 21". Thanks for the clarification about the ref. Tkd73 15:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply], Every Pink Floyd song has an article. My feeling is that such commandments are against the spirit and founding principles of Wikipedia - our exhortation is to be bold and edit right now, and some of the comments on User:Jimbo_Wales's page sum that up better than I can. Click on a gig to see the memorabilia associated with that gig. I wasn't sure if it was a British/American issue, or a rule pertaining specifically to bands as plurals vs. mass nouns. Even if some people's incorrect convention of notions of how verbs should be conjugated is that it would be conjugated as if "Pink Floyd" was plural, it is not, and respectively "to be" should not conjugated as such, according to both American AND British standard English. Required fields are marked *, I consent to my name and e-mail address being stored along with this comment, and to the website editors communicating with me by e-mail about the comment if necessary. (Photo by Cyrus Andrews/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)Image provided by Getty Images. And if you calculate rewards and worldwide sales of each album, it appears that number of sold albums is really over 300 million. I won't paste it here again; you've seen it, and it's already elsewhere on the page. She collected tickets, passed out handbills, blew up balloons and counted money for Fillmore productions. I checked out the discussion page because "Pink Floyd are" completely breaks my Native (American) English Speaker Intuition. Our response has been to change them back to consensus each time this happens, and this should continue. We also hold specialist auctions throughout the year, including Entertainment and Memorabilia, 20th Century Art and Design, Asian Art, Militaria, Garden and Architectural, Textiles, Fine Wine and others. shouldn't the band's formation at breakup be listed as 'current members' like the beatles and nirvana's article do? SilkTork *YES! Yes, a live album but still it was new material, not merely a compilation of already published stuff. The warning in the code does not seem to be seen by people who edit the article, so it is not enough and not working. Of course, if you want a clear-cut, undisputable thing, we would have to state that the band is still alive. You Wikipedia guys don't want to use my two sentences about Richard Wright and Pink Floyd? Roundhouse Chalk Farm 10pm onwards, drag optional, bring your own ecstatogenic substances and that., 20 x 30 inches. Also, I disagree with previous suggestions that fan websites are not allowed as citations on Wikipedia. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply], Thanks Knight and Ummagumma! Carrying out routine maintenance on this White Poplar, not suitable for all species but pollarding is a good way to prevent a tree becoming too large for its surroundings and having to be removed all together. LONDON - MARCH 4: 1967, Pink Floyd (Top: Roger Waters and Syd Barrett, Bottom: Nick Mason and Rick Wright) pose for photographers at a pressmore, Add This Artwork to Your Favorites Collection. This is a rare opportunity to acquire such a unique slice of rock history, as our bidders clearly appreciated.. Sources do deal in depth with Floyd's London associations, the clubs they played, and how they were a vital part of the London scene in the 60s, so mention of the importance of their London days would be appropriate and relevant.
As I'm sure you are aware, this was a rhythm and blues band formed in Cambridge that in addition to having Waters, Mason, and Wright, included Juliette Gale, Keith Noble, and Clive Metcalfe who of course were never in the band that became Pink Floyd. Hence, that was PF's last publication, their last activity (except Live8) and hence should serve as the end date for their de facto end. Atlantik (talk) 22:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply], Are the words "group" and "band" in British English (BrE) plural? Looking for a Tree Surgeon in Berkshire, Hampshire or Surrey ? http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/history1.html, Now before we go changing the article, I suggest we look around at the other sources we are using (including Nick Mason's book, which I don't have) and see what jibes with the online site, and what doesn't. On the "Echoes" CD, other tracks on which Gilmour played bass are listed as such (eg "One of these days" and "Hey You") but there is no such credit on "Sheep". Once a decision is made, we can feel free to revert changes and point to the policy in edit summaries.
I believe that it would be much simpler, and time-saving, to put some kind of banner on top of the article, mentioning that we say "Pink Floyd are" and not "Pink Floyd is" or "Pink Floyd were". Sale ends tonight at midnight EST.
If this article had been protected, I'm sure the vandal would have picked another as well as the fact that the article would have needed to be move-protected for a full week (which I don't think usually happens at WP on articles that don't have a history of vandalism), so the protection probably wouldn't have prevented the need for repair-work somewhere. Is the date being disputed? Ewbank's also hold monthly Antique and Collectors' auctions. Sounds like they where all nearly killed by the same thing. This should be the only genre in the album infobox. Tom Green (talk) 15:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply], I am one that has defended the indefinete hiatus tag for awhile now, but I do have to agree that its safe to declare Pink Floyd defunct, because they pretty much are. Impressed with her lettering skill on the upcoming attractions chalkboards, Bill Graham surprised her with an easel and art supplies for Christmas, 1967, and MacLean's poster artist career was launched. In early 1966, Pink Floyd were still largely a rhythm and blues outfit, but as these posters testify, towards the end of the year they had started to move firmly in the direction of psychedelia under the influence of Barrett.
We do not say the Beatles ended in 1969 even though their last two albums were recorded in 1969. But if you think something needs changing, go ahead and change it.
20% off all products! While "1968 to present" certainly clashes with the infobox status, "since 1968" could be read to mean that there was no formal departure and replacement by another member. All posters include a 1" white border around the image to allow for future framing and matting, if desired. Reason for Mason's refusal to join Waters in 2006 (working on solo album): I agree this should have a citation. After John Lennon quit the band in 1969, they still existed, until their official, public break-up in April 1970. My version is just as clear to the "casual reader". Tkd73 13:21 15 March 2008 (UTC), Actually, yes! Already replied above: While "1968 to present" certainly clashes with the infobox status, "since 1968" could be read to mean that there was no formal departure and replacement by another member. I'm not saying that the assertions in and of themselves are incorrect, but these references do need to be removed from an otherwise well-cited article. 03:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply], (undent) I agree I haven't been around to face the conflicts, and I don't know the full history. (Although, we can have policies for individual songs, on song article talk pages. Gilmoure has said himself that there are no plans of touring or recording?Hoponpop69 (talk) 01:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply], Reading over all that I didn't see much consensus that towards listing 1964-present.Hoponpop69 (talk) 05:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply], It should list 1965-1996.
AUD ($) When we click on the picture to see it in full size, its page indicates that the picture was taken 2 months later (in August 2007) CielProfond (talk) 02:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]. Sure it was recorded in 1994 but we cannot pretend that when the last note of the last concert of the Division Bell tour had sounded, PF were no longer active and the release of PULSE was merely an act of the record company. if all members are former members, all six would belong not into the former members box but into the members box. There was a big controversy over this, and it's one where all sides had a point. "It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings." (And could someone else take the next one, please?) Conventions of how British music culture uses incorrect grammar (while American music culture uses correct grammar, this should be as much of a determinant if either would have any say, which they do not) is no determinant of how English should be used in a strictly grammatically correct encyclopedia. What issues are still outstanding? . blehhhh i had to say that hahaha:) Echoes000 (talk) 19:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply], I was able to find a source from Nick Mason's book, stating that Pink Floyd formed in 1965. [9] Erzsbet Bthory(talk|contr.) And sometimes they are much better references than "corporate" websites that attempt to cover thousands of rock bands.
IMHO 1995 is the most valid date as nothing happened afterwards. I take it then that the ref has no real business being there. CAD ($) Sold for 7000.
"the final time this configuration of Pink Floyd would ever perform together" - is this the portion that is being disputed, or is it something earlier in the paragraph?
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