forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-).
The collector has an automatic cleaning system for the filter. SHOP 115 US Its compatible with our iVAC Pro line of automated dust collector products. I keep one at the TS hanging near the power switch and the other one hanging on the wall at the other end of the workbench.
Ever consider using your dust collector gates to turn on your dust collector? On another occasion I witnessed a HVAC repairman burned to a crisp while working on a panel. Buying a remote switch would cost me around $100 by the time I paid shipping and taxes to RSA and then it would be too small to run my 2HP dust extractor. FREE shipping on orders over $99 and under 50 lbs*, Save up to 30%* Off Everyday, Online or In-Store, Save up to 30%* Off everyday, online or in-store, Request an invoice reprint for Warranty, Tax Filling or Insurance Claim purposes. The relay doesn't care whether you're using a mechanical switch or magnetic switch. Making a cut on the table saw has now become a 2 switch operation. That'll run into money even if you can find a Sparky. When the magnet gets close to the sensor, it trips the switch and triggers the relay, which starts the DC. trailer
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If I'm gonna use another dustmaker, I jes open that ones blastgate and close the other cause mor'n likely it's on the way. Connect the ground wire from the incoming feed to the connecter marked E on the electrical outlet. "My system is similar to what you describe, but it uses low voltage magnetic switches instead of the micro switches. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. While there are several adhoc solutions to automated dust control, iVAC properly engineers quality and safety into its products to ensure satisfaction: The iVAC Pro Remote Switch is fully tested and approved by TUV to UL and CSA standards [UL60950-1 and CSA C22.2 60950-1]. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. I've been using the Long Ranger III for a little over a year now, it's the cat's meow.
This is the brand new 3HP cyclone one that just came out about 1 month ago. I have a Shop Fox (?) I knew that, in the past, there have been several discussions about the differences between light-duty switches and the kind we need for the motors we use, but I just can't keep that stuff in the memory banks! I got the idea on the blast gates from one friend, the wiring diagram from another and just built it. The main thing is that I had to take one a long way from the other while setting frequencies. Latest Forum Topics, Dust Collector Remote Switch from Rockler ON SALE. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. For example, when a 1.5HP 115Vac Dust Collector is turned on there is an initial surge current of up to 75 Amps. I have one of the Christmas tree set ups. They settle in the horizontal sections. It requires a more heavy duty switch than a switch for a resistive or incandescent load, (xmas lights, for example.) Forgot to mention that the motor starter switch is about $30. HUr6+p$\! IDveX#j5I. Don't rush out and buy those automatic gates just yet! A remote DC switchrequires very simple wiring. I have a relay that starts the DC motor when any blast gate is opened and shuts it off when they're all closed. item 1 Rockler Remote Dust Collector Switch - 110V, item 2 Rockler Remote Control Switch for 1.5 HP Dust Collector, 110volt, used, item 3 Remote Switch 110v 220v Wireless Switch For Lights Motor Pump Dust Collector, item 4 Dust Collector Remote Control Switch 220V Micro Switch Gate Valve Controlled, item 5 Dust Collector Remote Control Switch 220V Wall Mount Plug Long Range RF Signal, item 6 Dust Collector Remote Control Switch 110V Wall Mount Plug Long Range RF Signal, item 7 Remote Switch 110v 220v Wireless Switch For Lights Motor Pump Dust Collector, item 8 Shopsmith 12' Tap On/Tap Off Dust Collector Remote Foot Switch, for repair Z, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 1 product rating, 4.5 out of 5 stars based on 4 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 4 product ratings, 4.5 out of 5 stars based on 41 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 31 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 15 product ratings. "WISH IN ONE HAND, S--T IN THE OTHER AND SEE WHICH FILLS UP FIRST". If you make wooden blast gates (just sandwiched layers of smooth wood), they're simple to install by just drilling holes in the edge of the blast gate such that the magnets line up when the gate is open all the way. The only difference is that instead of mechanically switching them on or off, they turn on when the magnet gets close and off when it's removed. If so, why not wire the whole thing to start when any blast gate is opened and turn off when it's closed? Connect two wires to the light fitting where the light bulb would have drawn power and connect those two wires to the signal input on the contactor (A1 and A2 in my case). UNLIMITED Membership is like taking a master class in woodworking for less than $10 a month. I do know that my DC does draw a grundle of power on start up,I have a small fan plugged in next to it and that thing nearly stops when ever i turn on the DC. I'm sure you could retro-fit the switches onto almost any blast gate and installing the relay would be pretty easy.
It actually says two things: 1. you need a lot more stuff for induction motors, 2. I base my opinion on the functionality and the price, and this one does well in both areas. Heat. If I hold in the trigger on the drill switch and press the remote button the drill came on 100% as expected and switched off as expected. Your post reminded me of the guys that work in the electrical department of my local hardware store.
I second the reply you got from Forestgirl. This instructable shows you how to use remote ligth switch to power something that draws much more current. They are about $50 and well worth the price. Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. This forum post is now archived. Never solder a line voltage connector. Also, it is fairly easy to upgrade the capacity of the unit by replacing the contactor with a larger one. What is the relay switch? Hi, Nazard. Or you could spend a few more bucks and get a "real" dust collector remote: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_k?url=search-alias%3Dgarden&field-keywords=remote+dust+collector+switch. Programmable for 5, 15 or 45 seconds, Uses high quality digital wireless system with 40 foot range, Adapter cable to allow a standard 115Vac-20A plug to be connected to a standard 115Vac-15A outlet for dust collectors with less than 15A running current. Not sure what it pulls at start-up, butpretty sure it's more than 18. Site Map Privacy Policy Legal Notice, iVAC Contactor High Power Dust Collector Controller, iVac for Professionals, Schools and Institutions, iVAC Dust Collector Switch Technical Specifications, iVAC Pro Tool Plus Interface Specifications, iVAC Pro Dust Collector Remote Switch Technical Specifications, iVAC Pro Dust Collector Remote Switch Versions, iVAC Pro Dust Collection Remote Specifications, iVAC Pro Dust Collection Remote Control User Guide, Fully certified and approved features TUV safety approval and conforms to UL STD 244A and certified to CSA STDC22.2 No 14, Turn On Delay of 1.5 seconds avoids circuit breakers being tripped, Turn Off Delay ensures that your work area continues to be cleared of remaining airborne debris even after the tool has stopped. None of the pipes are gluedjust sealed with masking tape. Connect one branch to the porcelain light fitting according to the markings on the fitting. iVAC products are built tough, and built to last! But I am not one of those.
Turned the little dryer off, stepped away for a few seconds, came back and the darn thing was smoking. smaller gauge wire) It just gets hotter. I think I can come up with part numbers for the switches and the relay also. If it keeps moving, regulate it. A few clamps will make this operation much easier.
They didn't exceed the the limits of the unit. You could still get a mechanical switch ? A small surface area means the heat can't dissipate.
I think it is great. and I put it together with no problems at all. Our iVAC Contactor can handle dust collectors up to 10 HP! I often forget how powerfull a picture can be. The bypass is very simple, I just replaced my remote control unit in the place of the original switch (I am thinking of moving the dust collector switch to my table saw as it pretty dangerous at the moment, if the switch is on and I power it up at the wall the the motor will come on). Get instant access to over 100 digital plans available only to UNLIMITED members. SHOP 115 CANADA I have immediate and strong suspicion when hearing of using a Christmas light remote on a motor that might pull up to 18 amps when starting up. No guessing how much of the rest of the block it would have taken, that building's been there since the 1930's I think. 0000004882 00000 n
The Ranger and Shop Fox are much better construction and will stand up to rough handling. I went out to the shop and looked but no brand name, just "made in China". 0000001289 00000 n
Connect the connector marked with an L to the contactor opposite to the incoming Live wire and the same for Neutral. Connect the new box to an outlet and test the functioning. Drill pilot holes for screws in these two pieces that will connect to the base plate (the third +- 20x15 cm piece). SHOP 240 US In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations, Who has one and do you like it? My DCis 1.5HP Jet, I think the same motor (basically) as the table saw, so that's 18 amps. Is it OK to copy projects from the magazine? I do not know about the second, but I assume it has the same long range. Man, that would be the caterpillar's spats. Paddy, I got me a long bit of stuff, put a hook on the end, works great, didn't cost me a cent. I'm with you on the underground. But really the only thing I think it would be useful for is the dust collector. ;-). Two amps is higher than the rating for the light fitting but I decided to take a chance seeing as it is for a very short period only. 0000001134 00000 n
Feed the incoming cable through the gland and secure the gland in the back panel. Is the Pope catholic?? Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best Selling in Toggle Switches, Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like. If you press the button marked "On" on the remote you should hear the contactor click into place and see a little tab on top of the contactor move from the "0" to the "1" position. I made my own automatic gates. My DC is a 3 HP Grizzly unit and it does operate on 220V. Now I dont have to move tools around to reach the DC switch. Electric stuff is nothing to fool with, as the consequences of mistakes can be unpleasant, if not dire. The magnetic switches were the easiest thing I could think of as opposed to some sort of mechanism. On my last collector I had a remote and loved it. Toooo Coool skag man. There is no indication of L and N on the contactor so I don't think which one goes to A1 or A2 matters.
Having bypassed the factory installed switch for the dust collector motor the remote control works perfectly! 0000002206 00000 n
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The manufacturer was kind enough to leave two nice wires to do this. The 24 volt light wire that connects the gate switches and the contactor are a beeeze to run. Glad it was of some help.Len, Nice. Click for full details. I have been told that there is also an inductive current that is generated when the magnet in the contactor is dis-engaged, I have no idea the magnitude hereof so I ignored it (fingers crossed!). Manage Consent. Only problem I had was when I clipped the control to my jeans pocket, kept bumping it on accidentally. Mack, you're so far advanced from where I am, it's like comparing a sewing machine to an IPOD. Do I like it?
- lol. The insurge load is high on a motor. Although to keep it simple, you can just buy their gates (system price $60). Turn on the DCstart the saw. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, http://www.pennstateind.com/store/lrmset220.html, on/off switch replacement for Laguna bandsaw, Source needed for 5 hp planer manual switch, Editor's Letter: Technology and the future of woodworking. If after a few months it fails I will look into adding some form protection from the phantom inductive current. I'm never more than 3-4 steps from one of them. The exact thing I'd be afraid of. The relay is from Penn State, but it's not the remote control version. The decision is ultimately up to you. No, I only received the mag switch and it was not mounted. I have only had one "problem" and that ws getting them on totally different frequencies. Hampsters maybe, but really I think a trained professional crew of Beavers would work better, teeth are better at grindin away. The problem is that the dust collector has magnetic switch where if the power to the machine is cut from the mains while the machine is running it does not continue running when the power is switched on again. 92 0 obj
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But as I recall it would have increased the cost by about 5 or 6 hundred bucks at the time. Just my .02forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-), Off the subject of DC remotes anda moment ofChristmas madness! Ended up being much easier than trying to to solder inside the fitting. Yes, I've really lusted over those. If you've got lotsa gates, automating them cam be a big wiring job. A friend of mine who was an aviation electrician drew up the diagram for me in about 5 min. Electricity is dangerous. Fellow Jocks, saw this remote switch on sale at Rockler for $45 marked down from $72(on sale on the web, just tell the retail guy and they will look it up). Only one amp over the wall switch but which one would you rather have on your equipment? Instinct tells me having a weak switch in an electrical path is not a good idea.forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-). Gary, didn'tJDS give you a mechanical switch in a separate box and the mag mounted on the machine? iVAC Switch Box is nowavailable to clients in the United Kingdom and Europe through our partner Toolovation! Listen to Forest Girl.
That picture really hurts a visual learner like me. 19 comments . All and all very nice feature to have. Mostly works on larger diameter pipes than we have for DC, but his minimum is 14" wide. My dust collector is quite simple so there is no overload protection. Buying an expensive unit from Rockler or similar will certainly give you a prettier solution. It is annoying to listen to when the machine is shut down, but very effective. These are the simple little things that you find in the home securitysystems that are drilled into the door frame (about $5 each). Len, , If you are going to continue to usethe xmas light switchI would suggest keeping a fire extinguisher close at hand and having your insurance policy in a place where you can grab it as you run out of your burning shop., Frankly, I don't understand a lot of woodworkers. When I'm done with the dustmaker I let the DC run for a bit then shut it off ifn I'm done makin dust. The thing to remember is resistance. 0000001112 00000 n
I used drywall screws for the contactor and hot glue for everything else. That is why the light fitting is ideal. But there is plenty of space on my dust collector base so the bigger bulkier box is no problem. *KMS Club Members Save up to 30% Off everyday. I dont know a lot about motors either so its good to hear about the issues one might have with a cheeper solution to a problem.
What's the byproduct of resistance? BTW. Maybe it seems a bit petty, but I guess it just rubbed me the wrong way. I have a few of these on my worksurfaces for quick clean up. The contactor works by using an electro magnet to pull conductors into contact thus completing a circuit. Do you have them? This simple to use dust collector remote lets you control your shop vacuum or dust collector at the press of a button. 'Sides the crash helmet kept gettin in the way tryin to put on me respirator thang. The fix is to bypass the switch installed by the factory. Thanks for the kind words but I really didn't figure anything out. I noticed that the plug had melted.
Whats more, repeated usage tends to wear down the mechanical relay components and can lead to the failure of a less robust product. It is rated at 150 W or about 0.7 amps. Hb```f``* B@1V y
l1ld^7k;79ticRn=P:|yihh4f"93J8Wq{H$W_hH0#7q %)AF+%YBHy)y20(50p M6n`R6`0.``HKk`` I've used Christmas electric accessories for a couple of things. What's you favorite honing guide, that precisely and repeatably hones square? Read more , Canada/Copyright 2017-21 BCTINT Limited. See it at http://www.pennstateind.com/store/lrmset220.html. G, looks like they changed the game but they did put it on a wheeled platform and a large drum--all good. ".
I'm with Forest Girl and AZMO on the Long Ranger. I am sure you can make it smaller but this size felt comfortable for me to work with and maybe modify some of the internals at some stage. But look at the size of the contacts. It was prime kindling had a fire started, and it would have wiped out us, a big bookstore and the Arts and Crafts gallery(top-drawer stuff) in the same building. I went out and checked.mine is rated for 15 amps. So you have a brand name that i can look for? I have had the first one for at least 5 years without even having to change the battery. allreviews, 2022 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. "forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-). With typically up to 8 tools under your control iVAC Pro can help you automate dust collection in most any workshop. Did you check your DC motor also? Neither of which (sparks) is a good thing around dust. On a more serious note, I was badly shocked many years ago by a borrowed homemadeextension cord.
My system is similar to what you describe, but it uses low voltage magnetic switches instead of the micro switches. Edited 5/19/2008 11:37 am ET by KiddervilleAcres. All the contactors in the TeSys K range draw the same current from the signal source so if the light fitting works for this it will work for the larger ones too. Paddy. I'm with Forestgirl (Hi Jamie!)
This is genarally a good idea, especially for a table saw, but it means that my dust collector remote control unit will not work (it works perfectly to switch it off when it is running, so that's good). Always better to be safe than sorry no matter what the situation. "You cannot antagonize and influence at the same time. " Having the DC out of my work space along with the compressor did worlds for my enjoyment also.
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Did they say you can't or just that your's can't as it is set up? It is also registered by the FCC and Industry Canada (IC) [FCCID-YCH-IVACPRO, IC 8940A-IVACPRO]. by los |
LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user. Mack"WISH IN ONE HAND, S--T IN THE OTHER AND SEE WHICH FILLS UP FIRST".
However when trying it with the dust collector it didn't work as planned. Store was close to 2000 square feet in that incarnation.
Hell I almost trip onthe blast gates jus gettin to the machine I want to use. Even better than the bee's knees, eh?forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-). I'm sure you xmas light remote is over-dutied., When controlling motors you cannot assume a "15 amp rated switch" is fit for purpose., Your dust collectormotor is an inductive load. I'm really quite humbled by electrical things and potential problems therein.
I use to have a stepladder to climb up on but it kept fallin and afta gettin beaned on thuh noggin a dozen times I smartened up. It is similar to mine, has good reviews, and is only $15.00. Wish I had gotten it sooner. The smaller the wire, contact, or whatever the more resistance to the flow of electrons. Unfortunately I only decided to do the instructable after I have almost finished the project already, so the photos will mostly be of the almost completed project and sample parts from google searches. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5117. Did you make this project? Branch the incoming 220V feed Live and Neutral wires into two. In both instances, I checked the specs to make sure the items attached didn't exceed the specs on the accessory.
If there is any overload protection built into the circuitry do not bypass it. Mine is very heavy and it took four of us to stand it up -just- any we were worried. PDrqI_-@"xM`^.uS-c %a2|Gg19>`qP@ ^]
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Having tested it ten or twenty times or so it seems to work fine. Supposedly it can damage sensitive electronics. Nick would never forgive me if I burned down the shop, 'cause Braden's Triumph is on blocks in the attached room!forestgirl-- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl;-). I liked this one because of the size of the remote. You know a guy asked a question this week about an undergroud ABS systemhttp://forums.taunton.com/fw-knots/messages/?msg=40834.11 and I advised him to seriously think about going underground, and if nothing else provide some access points. brands |
When an AC gets replaced that contactor is part of what goes to salvage. When the magnet gets close to the sensor, it trips the switch and triggers the relay, which starts the DC. 0000000723 00000 n
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Secure the contactor and any other loose items to the base. Introducing the iVAC Pro Remote Switch the latest in iVACs growing family of automated dust control products. BTW, the base and remote are configurable (dip switches) so you could run two units with different frequencies if needed. I got onedesigned for x-mas lights but works just fine for my DC, and it was only $9.95 on clearance from the depot. The micro-switches are wired in series and connect the relay to ground. Our specially designed circuitry can handle running currents of 20 Amps and peak switching currents of 80 Amps. Now you can remotely switch off anything!
More electrically inclined DIY'ers will certainly be able to find a way around this. It's the size of a car key fob. Thanks. I made my gates out of 1/4" PVC and put a micro-switch on each one. |
I'll let the "experts" here field questions from now on. Once the contact is engaged the current draw is very low, well within spec of the light fitting electronics. 0000004961 00000 n
remote with two control switches. Works with dust collectors up to 1.5 HP at 115Vac and 2HP at 240Vac. If you guys figger out a way to get all them 'chines to work by theyownseff. A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop! The only problem I had was that because of the inductive load, I had to put a cheap diode across the connection to keep them from arcing shut. That's cuz it's about a9' reach to the switch for that. I envy people who can figure this stuff out. I'm just sayin' You my friend have no sense of adventure! I got jumped a bit for that, go figure. A couple of years ago. PMM, Ditto to all that, Matty! Now you can automatically turn on your dust controller with the press of a button. The toggle looks the same.
Mount the fitting onto the base plate, i just used hot glue, seems to work 100%. Lesser systems will either trip a circuit breaker, blow a fuse or break down. I have a long ranger for my 1.5 hp motor also. I'm a single person shop..the environment is not so rough.I will testify that FG is one of the nicest people on this forum, however, she is a girl..and..unlike us guys, has little experience with remote controls (lol). It seemed difficult to put it back together so I ended up taking the power for the contactor basically directly from the circuit board. I asked if i could use the remote they sell for 220 volt and they said no. The motor starter switch is rated at 16 A. The micro- switches were about $6 each and the relay was about $40 IIRC. Once you have the unit fully working close the housing with dry wall screws and glue. Share it with us! 0000004694 00000 n
I hang the clip on my shop apron and whenever operating my equipment which is attached to the DC (TS,BS, Jointer, wide belt sander, planer), simply push the on button and the dust goes where it belongs, the dust collector. 2022 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. When choosing a remote control fitting make sure what you use don't just give a power signal and then stop the signal , because the contactor requires continued power to maintain the connection. Just some things to consider. Plug something into the outlet on your housing that draws a reasonable amount of current, say a drill or a sander and try the remote again.Testing the remote unit using a drill worked 100%. I'm much more often accused of being "too nice" and "demanding" too much civility around here by the curmudgeons who prefer to simply blast someone or something as being ridiculous. If you sweep a screw or such in there what prevents it from going into the DC.
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